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thats the only advandege is you can change gear in 10 min and cost 3/4 less than 9inch .there r so many of these cars around just setting.as long as its 3 link let um eat

are you running 10" tires thats the problem that ive seen

yes i have 20 steal10inch wide 5 wheels .you only gain 1inch tread pattern with 12 wheels and on d21 tires u lose side wall wich you lose side bite
so u give and take on the wheels .mater of chose. im not trying to stink up your rules but with eb and nfs on a limited schudel you may gain a few cars just trying to help

I HAVE A 9IN REAR AND I RUN AGAINST QC CARS WITH WIDE TIRES AND RUN AGAINST FOUR LINKS CARS GET REAL PEOPLE PCS NEEDS CARS. ALEAST WE ARE TRYING TO HELP THE TRACK . ALL THAT STUFF DON'T MEAN NOTHING SOME OF YOU GUYS DON'T EVEN RUN SPORTS MAN WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN CLASS I WAS TOLD WE OUR WELCOME TO COME THERE AND RUN SO SEE YA SOON HEY JACKIE GIVE ME A CALL
TIM DOWLING

Tim....i was just giving some input on why the QC has an advantage....Your right...this isnt my class.....but i love this track....i have no clue what the differences are between nfs and pcs sports'man rules....i have heard that the 35 got DQ'ed for the QC and wide 5's....maybe they need to have a talk with the sportsman drivers and see how these things can be worked out. PCS could definately use the car counts and with nfs rotating classes maybe there needs to be some common ground on the sportsmans.

WELL WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS !!! I GUESS WE NEED TO CALL CLAREANCE AND TALK TO HIM TO SEE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO !! BUT I DO THINK IT WILL BENEFIT HIM TO MAKE THE CHANGES !!! ADDING WEIGHT I GUESS IS OK BUT DO WE DONT WANT TO GET DQED IF THEY DQED JACKY THEN THATS NOT GOOD !!!!

The sportsman rules were posted online quite earlier this year. Clarence was quite generous to let those cars run outside the rules. Perhaps the rumor is true that the PCS/VSP cars want to run the posted rules, not NFS/GIS.

4-links and 4 inches more rubber do make a difference, along with solid lifters and victor jrs. If you want to run a late model - run with the late models, all you have to buy is a pull bar.

You get on here say pcs and vsp rules get real didn't see no vsp cars and what two pcs cars seen more nfs cars

TIME TO MOVE UP WITH THE TIMES..... DIRT4DAISY THE NEW CARS ALREADY HAVE PULL BARS NO REALY THE SPORTSMANS/LIMITED LATE MODELS NEED TO ADVANCE AND COME UP WITH THE TIMES, AND UP TILL THIS POINT EASTBAY IS THE ONLY TRACK THAT HAS DONE SO AND NOW YA GOT NFS....... IF PCS WOULD JOIN IN I BET YOU WOULD SEE ALOT MORE DIFFERENT CARS AND ALOT OF FAST CARS WITCH WOULD GIVE THE FANS A BETTER SHOW. FOLLOWING VSP SPORTSMANS IS NOT A GOOD MOVE FOR PCS BECAUSE "1" THEY RUN SPORTSMANS EVERYWEEK "2" THERE A 1/2 MILE TRACK AND THEY TRY TO KEEP THERE CARS SLOWED DOWN. NFS AND EASTBAY RUN I LIMITED SCHEDULE FOR SPORTSMANS AND DON'T THINK FOR ONE MINUTE THEY WON'T TRAVEL IF THEY DON'T GET PICKED APART OR HAVE TO CHANGE THE WHOLE CAR TO RACE. IT WOULD BE EASYER TO CHANGE THE 4 CARS YALL HAVE AND START OVER.......JMO

I vote for change let them come and run nfs, gis, east bay, new hendry,

OK..... I WOULD AGREE BUT HOW DO YA GET EVERYONE ELSE TO AGREE?????? I HAVE SAID A EASTBAY RULE BOOK ALONG, THEN ANYONE CAN RUN.......FROM ANYWHERE INCLUDING VSP CARS, IF ANY WOULD SHOW UP.

MY GOD WHO ELSE IS THERE TO AGREE ITS NOT LIKE U HAVE 20 SPORTSMAN DRIVERS !!! I KNOW KEVIN , JACKY , TIMMY , PEEWEE AND BOB AGREE AND NOT SURE ABOUT THE REST BUT REALLY WHOS LEFT !!!

Lets see who's left............... Last years point's champ, Martin Johnson, 2006 champ Mark Kinley, Richard Adams, Ricky Cooper, Mike Mcgauley, Chris Manucey, Derrick Hullett, Mike Haney, (who will go to Volusia next week), Lisa OcOnnor, Jared Cooper, Chad Scranton, and Stanton Mills/Joey Hasselaur (who Builds winning motors for cars at our track), Who all had Legal cars (per PSC/VSP rules) last year that are going to race where the true spirit of street stock/sportsman rules are enforced. I feel your pain for putting your faith in NFS to only get a few races. that really sucks. shame on them. But Break out your street stock equipment, and let's race like we used to in the street stock class at putnam. I know youall still have the parts. Come get you some.

RACING CHANGES EVERY YEAR, EVERYWHERE EXCEPT PCS YA WANNA DO THE SAME OLE THING EVERY YEAR AND THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS. HELL EVEN NASCAR CHANGES YEAR TO YEAR. BUT PCS HAS STOOD STILL AND NOW THERE IS A BIG DELEMIA, ALL THE TRACKS AROUND HAVE PAST THEM UP, WITCH IS NOT GOOD FOR A TRACK THAT IS TRING TO STAY AFLOAT. THE PLACE NEEDS CARS MORE THEN THE CARS NEED THEM, SO SOMEWHERE THERE HAS TO BE A BALANCE. RIGHT NOW PCS HAS WHAT 4 SPORTSMANS AND NFS HAS 15 OR SO. HOW ABOUT TAKE THE NFS SPORTSMAN RULES AND RUN THEM 3 TIMES A MONTH AND THE WEEK NFS RUNS THEM GIVE THEM THE NIGHT OFF SO THE ONE THAT WANT TO RUN THERE CAN, THIS WOULD BE A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH TRACKS NOW WOULDN'T IT??? THIS WILL PUT MORE FANS IN THE STANDS AND SHOW GOOD FAITH FOR PCS "WITCH RIGHT NOW IS PRETTY SHAKEY" IT'S CALLED WORKING TOGETHER. AND ALL THE DRIVERS YOU SAID I ONLY SAW A COUPLE OF THEM THERE,I DON'T AGREE WITH CHANGING THE RULES AFTER THE SEASON STARTED BUT IN THIS CASE I THINK IT WOULD BE THE BEST FOR THE TRACK IF THEY DID SO. AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD SUPORT THAT. YOU WILL HAVE A COUPLE WHINERS BUT THEY WILL GET OVER IT, IF NOT SO WHAT THEY WILL GAIN 15+ CARS.

ok you say that nfs adopted eb rules i dont see where the rear suspension is the same nfs say3 link with bird cages locked with spring bar or biscuit bar? where eb says 3or4link with bird cages operable ? both say 10"steel wheels onlywith track tires. thats on the internet now if nfs changed there rules the need to change them on the internet then if nfs hasn't then the rear suspension is the same as pcs.

we r 3 link and rules will be updated on wheels coming soon and will be talking to billy ashbun at new hendry .all i was trying to do is build this class . so if u like watching 2 cars ,more power to u. good luck pcs. sorry for causing such a fuss but i have set back and watch what was going on there 4 the last 3 years seems like the 20 pepole that do run there dont want change once agin good luck .and im on the outside looking in

I GIVE YOU A FEW OF THEM NAMES BUT THATS A LONG LIST OF NAMES AND I HAVENT SEEN ALOT OF THEM NAMES IN A REALLY LONG TIME BUT WHATEVER NOT WORTH ARGUING OVER JUST ADD WAIT AND RACE AND I GUESS WHEN THESE GUYS WIN YALL WILL FIND SOMETHING ELSE WRONG WITH THE CARS TOO TO DQ THEM ! SO U CANT WIN FOR LOSING ! SO I GUESS WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS SAT!!!! SEE YALL AT THE TRACK !!!!

P.S I BELIEVE A FEW OF THEM NAMES LIKE MARTIN , MARC AND RICHARD COULD RUN WITH THESE CAES TOO !!! I DONT KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THEM REALLY DONT KNOW EM JUST DIDNT WANT ANY ONE TO THINK I WAS LEAVING THEM OUT SORRY !!! ANYWAY SEE YA SAT!!

[quote="Dirt4boy"]Lets see who's left............... Last years point's champ, Martin Johnson, 2006 champ Mark Kinley, Richard Adams, Ricky Cooper, Mike Mcgauley, Chris Manucey, Derrick Hullett, Mike Haney, (who will go to Volusia next week), Lisa OcOnnor, Jared Cooper, Chad Scranton, and Stanton Mills/Joey Hasselaur (who Builds winning motors for cars at our track), quote]


And just how many of those people have you seen there in the past year? Like 2!...Martin says he will be at PCS this weekend, and he has agreed before that PCS needs to update their rule book. That was decided last year when the drivers got to vote on the rule book. But when Marc Kinley came in trying to change all the rules to meet VSP's rules, look how many drivers ended up leaving because of it. Let alone Marc Kinley ditching the place himself.
I might be a woman, but even I know that the rules that work for a 1/2 mile track will not work for a 3/8 mile track. NFS made a VERY good decision in following East Bay's rule book. They will have a good turn out this year. Putnam has hardly ever pulled cars from VSP. I've seen more NFS and East Bay cars at PCS these past couple weeks than I have from anywhere.
Clarence is a smart guy and I'm sure he will do the right thing. But until then, I don't think b!tching about things is going to change anything.

Jennifer

jackrabbitrac wrote:

ok you say that nfs adopted eb rules i dont see where the rear suspension is the same nfs say3 link with bird cages locked with spring bar or biscuit bar? where eb says 3or4link with bird cages operable ? both say 10"steel wheels onlywith track tires. thats on the internet now if nfs changed there rules the need to change them on the internet then if nfs hasn't then the rear suspension is the same as pcs.

TAKE A RIDE TO EASTBAY AND WATCH... THERE IS 3 & 4 LINKS WITH LONG BARS AND SHORT BARS AND THERE IS QUICK CHANGES WITH 9" FLOATERS AND THERE IS CARS WITH 5 ON 5 AND WIDE 5'S AND THERE ALL MIXED UP SO TELL ME ONE IS BETTER THEN THE OTHER....NOT!!!! SO WHATS THE PROBLEM EXCEPT SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CHANGE.....YALL CAN SAY WHAT YA WANT BUT GO HOME AND WORK ON THE CHASSIS AND YOU CAN WIN REMEMBER PCS IS A CHASSI TRACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Besides when i keep seeing a sportsman get his ass spank !!!! by a street stock ever week end i would go home and change my shit. Hobbys moved up why not sportsman" IF YOU DONT WHAT TO CHANGE THEN DROP DOWN TO A LOWER CLASS"

THATS RIGHT!!!! SPORTSMAN IS SPOUSE TO BE A HIGHER CLASS THAN STREET STOCK I SEEN JOEY'S CAR GET OUT RUN BY A STREET STOCK AND HE HAS'NT CAME BACK !!


TIM DOWLING

If youall want PCS to change the rules, and it will bring 15 more cars, then maybe the NFS cars should buy a pit slab at PCS, and put down a 10 race deposit for the driver and a crew member. That will show how much support they have for PCS. I think we all want a good car count in the sportsman class, and the PCS regulars can change some things to keep up. But if you don't run here regularly, then why should the rules change? What really sucks is what NFS did to yall. Sounds like they tricked yall into believing they would support yall with a lot of races, then crapped on you. If NSF cars are really serious about supporting PCS, then I'm all for adjusting the rules. Bring on the 15 cars, lets do what is needed to the rules, and lets race.

now i talked to nfs last night they are still 3link with bird cages locked they made the change with the wheels allum.or steel ,10 or 12" ... there motor rules are still the same as on the website . look we are not afraid of change just fair even racing its time to get together at the track and prove you are willing to put your money down and support putnam when nfs isnt but if you are going eb or gis in stead and let us know now because this is our home track.........................

I DON'T THINK YOU WILL GET TEAMS TO PUT OUT MONEY IN ADVANCE TO COME AND RACE.....SOME WILL MORE THEN MOST LIKELY RENT PIT SLABS.I THINK THIS WOULD BE A WIN-WIN IF IT'S DONE RIGHT. LIKE I SAID BEFORE RUN SPORTSMANS 3 TIMES A MONTH AND THE NIGHT NFS RUNS THEM GIVE SPORTSMANS THE NIGHT OFF, SO IF THEY WANT TO RUN NFS TO THATS THERE CHOISE. BUT SOMTHING NEEDS TO HAPPEN SATERDAY IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.......