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PostSubject: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 4:13 pm

As Fire Rescue team leader, it is my job to save lives & ensure that each & every driver, crew member, official, employee & spectator go home safely each Saturday night. It is not my job to take sides nor is it my place to pass judgement. My duty is to provide a service to all in attendence, regardless of who you are or what you have done. That being said, I will tell you what I observed Saturday night from my point-of-view. I will not give my opinion. It is not my place to stir trouble. John114 wanted the full story from somone who could give it. Here is your answer John. Everything following is purely fact as seen through my eyes. If something has been omitted, it is becasue I did not see it.

After the pure stock class ran, the cars were checked for brakes by the tech guy. The winner of the race, J. Bennet was found to not have an operating right front brake. It was announced over the track radio that the winner was disqualified for that reason. A track officials (whose name I will not give) came over the radio immediately following & demanded that the Shaw family be kept out of the pit & especially the tech shed. Another track offical stated on the radio that if the Shaw family was involved, it wouldn't be good, but that official then stated he was going to keep his mouth shut & his opinions to himself. Realizing we would probably have another riot on our hands, I made my way from my track staging position to the tech shed area. When I got there, the situation seemed to have difussed. The crowd was dispersing & people were packing up to go home. I was sitting in my truck when the next occurence happened, so I wasn't able to hear what was said, but I did witness Sandy Miller, David Miller Sr. (both track officials) & several others (whom are not known to me) start chasing Jumpin Jimmy Shaw. He had his back to them as he was walking back to his pit to pack up & go home. When Jim's brother John saw what was happening, he went to Jim's aide. At this time, I jumped out of my truck to see if I could help break this up before it turned ugly. Unfortuately, I was too late. The first one John got to was David Miller Sr. John bear hugged David & took him to the ground. Once David & John were on the ground, alot of people piled on John. Some were trying to seperate the two men, others were wailing on John. A huge group had formed around the two. I worked my way to the center. John & David had already been seperated. I grabbed John from the two guys that had him & pushed him back to my truck where I told him to stay put while I did my job. I grabbed my med bag & went to look at David Miller Sr. He had a injuries that needed tending. While I was trying to do my job, members of the Miller family yelled & cussed at me & one even put there hands on me. The person who put their hands on me had an infant child strapped to their chest! I did loose my cool with these two individuals & chewed them out with rather stong words. But once they were removed from my immediate area, I was able to provide proper treatment to David Miller Sr. By this time law enforcement was on its way & alot of people were shagging out of there. When was all said & done, I had three patients to care for, Jumpin Jim was served with a trespass warning & the officials were allowed to go home uncensured by management. Tires were slashed on both John's truck & Jumpin Jim's racecar. Motor oil was dumped in Jim's race seat as well. I did get an unsolicited vow from Clarence Smith that the vandal will be brought to justice once he/she is revealed.

Those are the facts as I saw the situation play out that very Saturday 18 July 09 night. I cannot attest to any other events that played out after the track was cleared as I was not present to witness any other goings-on.
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 4:50 pm

well put.the vandells were daniel baldwin that drives the 44 pure stock and jarred bennett.shows some class don't it.
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 5:29 pm

I have to say this has been the most fascinating fiction story readings that I have read in a very long time.
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 6:31 pm

WELL NOW, FINALLY..... I HAVE HEARD THE SAME STORY TWICE FROM TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE SO THIS MUST BE THE REAL STORY!!!!!! SO WHO NEEDS TO GO? THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED ALONG TIME AGO, MAYBE IT WOULD STOP ALL THE CHATTER Idea Idea LETS SEE IF PCS "CLARENCE" DOES THE RIGHT THING.
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyTue Jul 21, 2009 7:14 pm

That's pretty much the way I heard it too. It all seems like it still could've been solved with out all the violence. The vandalism was wrong and so was the fighting. How does anyone know if Miller was chasing Jim to fight him or to argue with him or whatever the case. A lot of what seems to happen with some people out there seems childish and way too much drama. I just hope the violent part is over atleast. I know that one person on here is suppose to be coming to cause problems on the track from what it seems and that isn't any way to solve anything. JMO
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyWed Jul 22, 2009 12:02 am

well the fact that he was a danny miller's house sunday before the race and staited that if he touched jack jack's car that he would pull out the 21 car and destroy jumpin jim's car. second before the heat race jack miller, jarred bennit, and daniel baldwin if his car touched any of ther's that they were going to destroy his car. third he was screaming at jimmy as he was chasing him. finally i never seen anyone run to argue with someone.

john it doesn't matter give it time and there will be another issue and the trouble making family won't be there. every body around racing for the past few year's know's how it is. ask bobby giles about his trouble last year. see what he say's
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyWed Jul 22, 2009 5:33 pm

I know all about Bobby Giles, I was there. I am by no means taking sides, I just think it all could've been handled differently all the way around.
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyWed Jul 22, 2009 11:45 pm

What happened to Bobby Giles?
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyThu Jul 23, 2009 12:23 pm

No reason to go bringing up old stuff now. Move on to something more fun to discuss. It's been almost a week. I vote for a new topic possibly something positive. cheers cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Something Positive   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyThu Jul 23, 2009 12:37 pm

I agree John lets move on.... How about them mets??????? hahahahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyThu Jul 23, 2009 1:21 pm

john114 wrote:
I vote for a new topic possibly something positive. cheers cheers cheers

I agree with you John.. Let get on with something else and let those involved handle this between them... I gotta get that transmission fixed in the 11 car that I ran last weekend.. I got into 2 place in the race and a caution came out. Then 2nd gear went it the car and had to start the race in 3rd gear.. Then after the race the whole thing stopped working, But still finished 3rd in the the race...
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyThu Jul 23, 2009 10:20 pm

better luck this weekend man.
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyFri Jul 24, 2009 9:10 am

I agree. Good luck to all this week! I look forward to some good, clean racing & an uneventful night.
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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyFri Jul 24, 2009 12:53 pm

Good Luck to everyone this weekend! Unfortunately we won't be able to make it this weekend. We've got prearranged plans. But we hope to make it back up there sometime soon!

Good luck and be safe!!



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PostSubject: Re: Saturday 18 July as I saw it   Saturday 18 July as I saw it EmptyFri Jul 24, 2009 5:28 pm

Are there any sportsman coming out?
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