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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:45 pm

lol,, pretty much chad,, streetstock race.seems to me that people are useing this to suit there needs, racing tires headers, now nine inch rearends, when does it stop. a bunch of bull to me.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Sat Dec 11, 2010 8:37 pm

It is def. getting out of hand. They need to make up their minds and post some rules for all to see instead of all this calling crap. I hope they get it figured out soon. I want to run there on the 22nd bu starting to debate leaving it on the jack stands in the garage til the season starts
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:31 pm

NOW YOUR THINKIN JOHN cheers TO MANY IF AND'S OR BUT'S!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:44 am

kbriggs19t wrote:
lol,, pretty much chad,, streetstock race.seems to me that people are useing this to suit there needs, racing tires headers, now nine inch rearends, when does it stop. a bunch of bull to me.


Not sure where you heard they were using 9" rearends but what I was told that they were not using them..But I will for sure give Bob a call tomorrow and get this settled for everyone..seems like people are hearing different things and it needs to be addressed ...

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:32 pm

there will be NO 9 inch allowed in anything except a Ford car and it has to come with it OEM, Bob is still working on some other sponsors, I can tell you every car that takes the green will be paid, its $2500 to win and 30th place will get $30, and as far as anyone pulling in early and going back out right before the 50 lap break guys its not happening, we will let you know what the maximum amount of laps you can be down on the 22nd at the drivers meeting.
The $30 ($40 at the gate if not pre entered) is a pre-entry fee for the CAR which makes up part of your purse and then you have your pit pass for each person. Also you can pre-enter your pit pass and save $10.
We are running your track rules from whatever track you run at, with the exception of headers face it you spend as much or more for a good set of stock manifolds.
As far as 2011 rules start building your cars theres not that much the difference in the other tracks rules that you can hold up on the questionable things for a few more weeks and NO there want be any World Product or any other S/R (NO stock replacement aftermarket heads of ANY kind) in the PURESTOCK/THUNDERSTOCK, OPEN CHAMBER ONLY (OEM) YOU WILL BE TECHED BY YOUR RULE BOOK BRING IT AS WE WILL HAVE A COPY OF ALL FLORIDA TRACK RULES AND GEORGIA RULES, Drivers please bring a copy of your track rules if you have them.
Any tech questions please call Robert Von Schmidt at 904-813 2345.
Any event questions call Richard Tipton

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:20 pm

Thanks for the heads up on the info Beavis..
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:37 pm

We are running your track rules from whatever track you run at




I run at Waycross in the pure stock class. We are allowed to run floater rearends. Is this ok?
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:02 pm

This is going to be pretty interesting. The Ga guys are def going to be doing pretty good since they are allowed more than we are. Starting to wonder how this is all going to work...... I guess we'll have to wait till it gets closer to see what it's going to look like.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:11 pm

WAYCROSS PURE STOCKS ARE REALLY HOBBY STOCKS. NO 9 INCHES.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:49 pm

WFO wrote:
WAYCROSS PURE STOCKS ARE REALLY HOBBY STOCKS. NO 9 INCHES.

If the thunder stocks are going to run headers and racing tires, why not run 9" rearends and have that many more cars show up. If the track is good and racing is properly ran, maybe some of the cars will race year long. I am thinking about it. Floaters are a lot safer than chevy rear ends and is a lot easier to change gears. It takes away any advantage a ford car will have.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:40 am

thats bs you know what the rules are before you get here get rite or dont show up!
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:30 am

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thats bs you know what the rules are before you get here get rite or dont show up!

With all this discussion, I don't believe anybody really knows what the rules are gonna be until the race is over. If the track is gonna run Thunder stocks, then run Thunder stock rules. Not half this or that. If you are gonna run basterd rules then lets go all out. A ford nich inch is not going to make any difference except a closer gear ratio. It make a lot more sense to run 9" than a chevy. Safer and less hassle if you want to change gears. Florida tracks have ruined the rules and racing. The street stocks have been blown way out and the racing sucks with ten cars. Owners and promoters listen to the few who cry and screw everybody else. Now thats BS
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:40 am

NO SPACER PLATES OR BIG 1850 CARBS OR ALUMINUN INTAKES THAT WAYCROSS HOBBY STOCKS RUN I MEANT PURE STOCKS UNLESS WE ALL GET TO RUN THEM. IF WAYCROSS CARS GET TO RUN THIS STUFF THEN EVERYONE SHOULD GET TO. I DONT MIND IT. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET IT STRAIGHT THOUGH. ILL JUST BRING A WAYCROSS RULE BOOK WITH ME AND THATS WHERE ILL BE FROM.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:25 pm

1850 vac secondary is not a big carb. Quadrajets are bigger. And you can not run aluminum intakes or bowtie intakes. Go to waycross web and read rules. Again, I agree with you that if you are going to run Thunder stocks then run thunder stock rules. Cast iron exhaust and street tires.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:03 pm

if you knew half of what you where doing you could make the gear just as close on a stock gm just as much on a nine inch. and i agree they all should be on dot tires all the way around. i have my self changed a gear set in a gm rear end in an hour, its not rocket sience. and also what thunder stock class do you run in that you can run a floater in anyway?
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:04 pm

Ok. Let me explain this in simple english.

If the track is going to allow headers and racing tires, then go ahead and run 9" rearends.

If the track is going to put on a THUNDER STOCK race, then run only THUNDER STOCK rules.

Since they are interbreading the rules and making a baster baby, lets go all out.

I do not run THUNDER STOCKS. I run Hobby Stocks at Golden Isles and Pure Stock At Waycross.

Thunder Stocks Should be the same rules as Golden Isles Pure Stock Class.

As far as rearends go, I know you can go through the transmission and so on. It is still smarter and safer to run a floater rearend.

As I said earlier, I believe the THUNDER STOCK race should be Strickly Thunder Stock Rules.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:48 pm

Either way, they need to put the rules in writing on here SOON.... There is too much bull as far as I can see so far, way tooooo confusing. The whole calling thing is crap because you can be told something and then the day of it changes or someone misunderstands......blah blah blah.... If it is in writing then there is no issue with the he said this or that. The run your track rules is obviously not gonna work due to the whole Fl./Ga. crap. Why would we wanna go out there with our VSp or Ocala rules against the boys running the Ga. rules

Needmore is allowed the ford 9"floater, screw jacks, 49lb crank, 1" carb spacer, race fuel, any aluminum or steel intake, and a couple other minor things we are not allowed......

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:58 am

Totally agree with ya John.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:09 pm

I called the track and was told it is not NOT your track rules...... The man that is running the track told me that it will be Volusia rules with the addition of the optional headers and race tires. He assured me it won't be run your track rules which makes me feel better. I guess we'll be there with the car and the family. Hope it turns out good and I heard from a few people that the track is steadily being worked on and is looking really good. I can't wait to get out there.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:52 pm

John from what I was told tonight it is what I had posted just for the Jan 22nd race then it will go into a regular rules for the season..

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:53 pm

There will be NO 9 inch allowed in anything except a Ford car and it has to come with it OEM, Bob is still working on some other sponsors, I can tell you every car that takes the green will be paid, its $2500 to win and 30th place will get $30, and as far as anyone pulling in early and going back out right before the 50 lap break guys its not happening, we will let you know what the maximum amount of laps you can be down on the 22nd at the drivers meeting.
The $30 ($40 at the gate if not pre entered) is a pre-entry fee for the CAR which makes up part of your purse and then you have your pit pass for each person. Also you can pre-enter your pit pass and save $10.
We are running your track rules from whatever track you run at, with the exception of headers face it you spend as much or more for a good set of stock manifolds.
As far as 2011 rules start building your cars theres not that much the difference in the other tracks rules that you can hold up on the questionable things for a few more weeks and NO there want be any World Product or any other S/R (NO stock replacement aftermarket heads of ANY kind) in the PURESTOCK/THUNDERSTOCK, OPEN CHAMBER ONLY (OEM) YOU WILL BE TECHED BY YOUR RULE BOOK BRING IT AS WE WILL HAVE A COPY OF ALL FLORIDA TRACK RULES AND GEORGIA RULES, Drivers please bring a copy of your track rules if you have them.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:10 pm

WOW what a dam mess. The man tells me it isn't "run your track rules" then 8 hours later it's back to this. Until something is figured out for sure I think we will just leave the car the way it is and then we'll decide for sure if we're racing or sitting this one out. This is a total mess and I hope this is not what we have to look forward to. I hope we can get some real answers soon........
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:12 pm

This is only for that Special Event Race only..

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:23 pm

Thats all me and him talked about was the special event
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Rule Questions   Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:05 pm

JOHN, I TALKED TO THE TECH MAN TONIGHT, AND HE SAID THE ONLY CARS THAT CAN BE ON DIRT TIRES IS NFS CARS IN FLORIDA, OCALA AND VSP NEED TO RUN THERE DOT'S AND R/F DIRT TIRE. AND YOU CAN'T RUN A STEEL HEAD GASKET. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND HE ALSO TOLD ME "NO STEEL" MOTOR MOUNTS.... I THINK THIS DUDE NEEDS TO READ HIS OWN RULE BOOK!!!!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing OR HERE BETTER YET:

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